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  1. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Very true that just being a Veteran does not necessarily make one honest and trustworthy. I know a few ex-soldiers who are despicable miscreants. Knowing "how" to 'read the writer' is also an acquired skill I guess.
    As for : Just as if Biak says America is the best nation in the world to live in....even he knows he is wrong...vets...civvies...we all romance the lilley... (you know I have to :) )
    Yeah we "Gilt the Lilly" as they say, but I would put it this way; "As far as I'm concerned; For me, America is the best nation in the world to live in.
    Cheers !
     
  2. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I don't know how to help you there, I've always enjoyed reading anything. I read far more than I watch TV. I read in the bed before sleeping, then in the morning while I am drying my hair and shaving. I guess it sounds like for you that reading is like exercise-the hardest part is just starting.

    it helps if you have a suject that you are passionate about. I much prefer first-person account, because they are more personal. I have a better connection if is a single man says "I did X, Y and Z" instead of the author saying "1st Battalion did X, Y and Z."

    George, have you considered inventorying your books on LibraryThing.com? Mine are there, as well as a couple of other members. I'd like to see what all you have.

    There is no way to learn everything out there. There are guys here who are excellent lug nut & rivet counters, but could not tell you anything about what happened to Task Force 77.4.3 (aka Taffy 3) in Oct 1944.

    On a forum like this, unless the person has been verified, be judicious with your belief in their words. There are those out there that wish to steal the valor of others. We've had it here at least twice that we know of. However, we do have some well men here who are well known in the internet world. You'll find their stories here. They are worthy of the laudations you might offer.
     
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish

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    All 'reading'?
    Nobody mentioning 'Visit more Museums'?
    And they often have bookshops too...

    Maybe pick a specific subject that interests - read voraciously on that one thing, then read some more on it.
    It will lead to a wider grasp as you begin following little details and cross-checking stuff.
    Education is not merely remembering the facts themselves - it lies more in understanding the connections between those facts.

    And quite importantly, be very cautious when asking fat old buggers on the Internet for advice. It's like giving a licence to ramble...

    ~A
     
  4. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Have to agree with you there, Adam. For me, that requires a bait of driving, but is well worth the trip.
     
  5. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Did he just call me a fat old bugger?
     
  6. Gebirgsjaeger

    Gebirgsjaeger Ace

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    Noooooooo!
     
  7. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    Fury 1991 New Member

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    These guys are sharp cookies. I have learned alot over the past few years, however, I can not compare to most of these guys here. I've appreciated them sharing with guys like me. :D
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish

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    Everything's 'me me me' with you.
    I was, of course, calling everyone a fat old bugger.

    ~A
     
  10. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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  11. Highway70

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    I agree your statement to "be careful what you read". It also applies to reviews and crticism, for instance the factual errors cited in the linked Huffington Post article and in the Solon article it is based on appear to be nitpicking and irrevelent to the basic story. They could indicate a poor fact checking and there could be more relevent erros in the book, but if so why were't some of them cited.

    Far worse factual errors have been found in history text book used to teach our children.


    The criticism from a blog on Christian Science Monitor by Jackie Hogan " the book for covering up negative aspects of Lincoln's presidency in favor of a good story. As she puts it, "style and image often take precedence over evidence and substance." She also calls the book "sensationalized, suggestive, and overly simplistic." " may be correct, but but may not. It could represent a different world view. She is not a Historian. Jackie Hogan is Chair of Sociology at Bradley University and author of "Lincoln, Inc.: Selling the Sixteenth President in Contemporary America." Her book is available from Amazon.

     
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  12. TD-Tommy776

    TD-Tommy776 Man of Constant Sorrow

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    In the interests of keeping this on topic, I will not continue the discussion of O'Reilly's book, except to say that Clint and Highway70 both make some good points.

    Pick a topic that interests you and reading will seem less boring. Read many different sources because all books have a bias or a point of view -- even the best historians are biased. If you read several different sources, the biases and possible errors will balance out. It's a bit like witnesses in a trial. They all may have a slightly different take on what happened. When taken together, you have a better idea of what happened. If you only read one book or one author, you will only get one perspective.
     
  13. VolksGrenadier44

    VolksGrenadier44 Member

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    I began today, I read for about two hours and then here I am reading some threads. The reason I was going for two hours is because I took the advice of reading what I like so I walked to the book store with my allowance and got a book on Axis equipment, rank and weapons (My favourite subject is German ranks,equipment, uniform etc). Thanks so much for the help guys!
     
  14. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Now this can branch off...Where was the equipment used? How? Against who and why? Why is that uniform different from the other etc etc...
     
  15. LRusso216

    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I'm glad you started reading. It is a good idea to first read about your interests. You can branch out later. Be sure to let us know what you've learned.
     

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