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  1. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Have you ever seen "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"? The scene where people are lined up on the side of the road waiting for the LGMs is supposed to be near Muncie, Indiana. I lived a few miles from there. There are no hills like in that movie anywhere near Muncie.
     
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    Isn't that Uber for Marines ?

    PS : I was interested in Archaeology once but it became Ancient History to me.
     
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    Devils Tower is a butte, possibly laccolithic, composed of igneous rock in the Bear Lodge Ranger District of the Black Hills, near Hulett and Sundance in Crook County, northeastern Wyoming...
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    Spielberg is said to have had access to high level people who worked within the "program" it inspired films like ET and Close encounters..."Inside" people have said that the scene at the end with a personnel "swap", humans going aboard and a group of grays staying not only took place but occured very much as Spielberg depicted it in the movie...

    PS: The humans went back to the aliens planet...two died whilst there and one didn't want to come back...i think they were away for about 8 years (don't quote me on that though).
     
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    Yeah not sure what OP is playing at...
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    I saw Devils Tower in the distance once while passing through but all the hoopla was over so kept going.
     
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    A couple of pics from what i think is this meeting and swap...
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    Film footage on this also...
     
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    The supposed building that was "put up over night" to "hide a landed UFO" was actually a LCAC hangar.
     
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    The joke on Peleliu (LHA-5) was "we fired 2,000 marines at the coast and then sailed around drinking coffee until they were done playing in the woods."
     
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    Just had a quick google...The building is not in the US apparently...
     
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    I'll check later, still trying to get my eyes uncrossed.
     
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    "One of the earliest water channels in history dating back 8,200 years was found during the excavation work carried out in the Yeşilova Höyük (Yeşilova mound).
    Yesilova Hoyuk is a mound in the Bornova district of İzmir, Turkey, and is the oldest known prehistoric human settlement in the area of İzmir.
    The mound that is being excavated has already uncovered significant Neolithic Age traces as well as a wealth of information about the earliest settlers in the region of Izmir off the coast of the Aegean, their surroundings, and their culture. For instance, unlike Catalhoyuk in central Anatolia, where the houses are next to one another, they lived in separate houses with separate roof systems.
    The findings from the joint project between the Culture and Tourism Ministry of Turkey, Ege University, and the local authorities, are significant because they suggest that the historical settlements in the Izmir area go back 8,500 years, to 6500 BCE."
    One of the earliest water channels in history dating back 8,200 years was discovered in western Türkiye - Arkeonews
     
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    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    "Early humans nearly went extinct 900,000 years ago when the population of our ancestors dropped to just 1,280 individuals, research suggests.
    A new study has found that the human race was almost wiped out as it approached a severe cooling period in the Earth's history known as the Middle Pleistocene.
    This severe 'bottleneck' lasted over 100,000 years and was a threat to humanity as we know it today, experts say.
    A team from East China Normal University developed a model that could look at modern gene lineages and use them to estimate past population size.
    They used their model to analyse the DNA of 3,154 modern humans from both African and non-African populations.
    Their findings, published in the journal Science, suggest there were only about 1,280 breeding individuals left around 900,000 years ago, and this lasted for 117,000 years.
    They estimate that nearly 99 per cent of our ancestral population was lost at the start of this bottleneck.
    The decline also coincided with climate change that led to long periods of glaciation, a drop in sea surface temperatures, possible long periods of drought and loss of other species which may have been a food source.
    Our last common ancestor with Neanderthals, and another extinct human species called Denisovans, was also thought to live during this period."
    www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12465399/Early-humans-nearly-went-EXTINCT-900-000-years-ago-population-ancestors-dropped-just-1-280-individuals-study-claims.html
     
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    Now that was a bloody interesting read.
    Here's the original article in Science, since the DM forgot to include it-
    "However, Janet Kelso, a computational biologist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, is skeptical. She notes that the genetic signal for the bottleneck is strongest only in present-day African populations, and not in people who today live outside Africa, which suggests the bottleneck might have only affected some ancestral populations. The conclusions, “though intriguing, should probably be taken with some caution and explored further,” she says."
    www.science.org/content/article/human-ancestors-may-have-survived-brush-extinction-900-000-years-ago
     
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    "An international effort is being made to identify a medieval palace in the Scottish Borders.
    Archaeologists and students from Australia, the USA, Canada and the Netherlands have descended on a field outside the village of Ancrum.
    Earlier digs have identified a "substantial" medieval building, without establishing its purpose.
    Archaeologist Ian Hill said: "We are now trying to determine exactly what the building was."
    Documents show that the Bishop of Glasgow, William de Bondington, had a summer residence at Ancrum, near Jedburgh, from the 1230s until his death in 1258.
    The palace entertained Scots royalty with at least three charters being signed there by Alexander II in 1236."
    www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-66730551
     
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    "In 2012, a team of scientists reopened six 400-year-old decorated wooden chests, stored high up on stone screens in Winchester cathedral, for the first time in decades.
    Painted on the chests are the names of some of England's most illustrious early medieval ancestors: Eight kings, two bishops, and the formidable Queen Emma of Normandy, whose remains allegedly rest within. The team's aim was to use the latest technology – including radio carbon dating and the study of ancient DNA – to establish if this was really true.
    There were originally ten chests, but, during the Civil War, a group of Roundheads burst through the cathedral's door and smashed several of them to the floor. Witness accounts describe how the venerated bones of ancient royals were thrown as missiles to smash the stained glass windows. Later, what could be saved was gathered in the remaining chests with two replacements commissioned.
    The predecessors of the current chests date all the way back to the 12th century, when Winchester's then bishop, Henry of Blois, decided to gather up ancient burials and move them to specially commissioned lead boxes. The only problem was that he didn't quite know who he was moving, so the bones may already have been in disarray.
    Yet the names of those he moved have been recorded for almost a millennium: these include Æthelwulf and Egbert, the father and grandfather of King Alfred the Great; William Rufus, William the Conqueror's son, who was killed in a mysterious New Forest hunting accident; Cnut the Great, the Viking king who ruled England for 18 years as part of a North Sea Empire; and Cnut's wife Emma of Normandy, a powerful queen in her own right.
    In 2019, initial results of the forensic investigations were revealed. The chests contained over 1,300 fragments from a minimum of 23 individuals, 12 more than were named on the chests. Among them, the team could identify just one female skeleton, the remains of an older woman; a profile with a perfect match to that of Emma.
    Ironically, when the broken chests were replaced after the Civil War raid, the remains assumed to be Emma's were placed together with a bishop by the name of Ælfwine - the very man who her own son accused her of having an illicit affair with. The story takes place some years after the death of Cnut the Great in 1035, during the time that Edward the Confessor - Emma's son with her first husband, King Æthelred the Unready - ruled England."
    www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12508117/Mystery-Bone-Chests-Winchester-Cathedral-Historian-CAT-JARMAN-Emma-Normandy-twice-Queen-England-woman-far-discovered-1-300-bone-fragments-Anglo-Saxon-rulers.html
     
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    I do find it odd that they keep referring to Neanderthals as a separate species.

    When I was in school if two populations could interbreed and the resulting offspring were fertile then they were the same species. By this definition Neanderthals are clearly the same species as us.

    Later on they added the don't commonly interbreed because they didn't want to consider tigers and lions and such a single species. Guess what there's now pretty good evidence that Neanderthals and other contemporaries interbred frequently and we all have at least some Neanderthal genes. Seems like this would make them the same species as us again.

    In the mean time Homo Erectus is considered one species even though they persisted for 100's of thousands of years over most of Africa, Europe, and Asia. One wonders just how compatible one born in say Southern Africa was with one born say 150,000 years later in China.
     
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    If it walks like a HOMO, quacks like a HOMO, and makes bad jokes like a HOMO, it must be a HOMO.
     

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